![[State of Post-Training] From GPT-4.1 to 5.1: RLVR, Agent & Token Efficiency — Josh McGrath, OpenAI](https://cloud.blankdot.ai/og-images/a9f1c74728aee242.webp)
From pre-training data curation to shipping GPT-4o, o1, o3, and now GPT-5 thinking and the shopping model, Josh McGrath has lived through the full arc of OpenAI’s post-training evolution—from the PPO vs DPO debates of 2023 to today’s RLVR era, where the real innovation isn’t optimization methods but
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